We’ve had the pleasure of chatting with Elias Theodorou, the first cannabis-sanctioned pro athlete, a couple times now and he’s an incredible athlete to watch – professionally and personally! Most recently, after another win in the ring, Elias attended the Colorado Combat Club to help other athletes with their cannabis exemptions.
Break out your Mighty (or Volcano) for this sesh. We talk everything from Ring Boys, cheating in MMA, his cannabis routine and how he works to advocate for medical cannabis use in professional sports.
Elias received a therapeutic use exemption for medical cannabis in January 2020, but it wasn’t until March 2021 that he got to step into the ring. Since then he’s won fights both in and out of the ring, fighting to break the stigma of our beloved plant.
A Sesh With Elias Theodoreau
Jerry: [00:00:00] Hey guys, we’ve got Elias Theodorou over with us again. Tonight I’m stoked to have him here. We interviewed him last year at some point and, if you remember, he’s an mma fighter that is not only running around kicking butt, but he’s spreading the legality of cannabis and how we medicate, and we want him to tell you about that.
But anyhow, we got them back. He just had a fight last month that I’m stoked about to check in and – Ooh!! look at that big old jar he’s got too! So yeah, thanks for coming in, bud. Good to see you!
Elias: Yeah, I’m excited to catch up with you guys and pumped to be here.
Jerry: I broke out my mighty to vape with you today.
I figured you were gonna hit that, so I’m break that out, but right here. Oh, you’re hybrid and I love it, man. We love that fact. We’ve been beating that up the last two weeks on the show, uh, in the flower pots together. And, um, dude I’ve been getting like was, I was, I was fucked up two weeks in a row was a long,
Troy: Jerry was holding onto his desk it looked like it looked like he had one of those big fans blowing on him and he had to like, hold on.
Jerry: I got the giggles, the whole nine yards, man. It was hilarious. I felt like I was 16, man. I was like, Yeah, so anyhow, but, uh, but no. So anyhow, um, yeah, you got this new place that I’ve been, I’ve been dying to see one of these days. So, uh, and, and did you, did you get a hold of that artist and get some cool glass down at all too?
Elias: I haven’t yet. And what’s it called, but some of it’s starting to come up, not with call. I got a, both a booze and a what’s it called a glass, uh, where up there. And I don’t know if you kind of see it, there’s a sign that says there right in the corner, it says it’s 4:20 somewhere and I would put a big, big art piece up top there. Probably Muhammad Ali in some kind of capacity, knocking someone out a big mural. And then on this side, over here, there’ll be some type of cannabis mural in some capacity. So we’re still kind of playing around with it. It’s still kind of a work in progress, but, uh, Uh, what’s it called? There’s actually what the glass guy that you introduced me to and another one that I’m going to actually reach out to. So thank you so much.
Jerry: Yeah. I love doing that custom stuff. I don’t do it. Awesome. Often enough, man. That’s so I just can’t wait to see whatever you come up with, man.
Troy: That’s good shit. So you, you had, uh, you had a fight recently and congrats on your, on your win. You, can you tell me what you did, did for your celebration?
Like what, what, what was your, what was that night like after the fight?
Elias: Yeah, it was, you know, it was just a wild ride in the capacity that it, it was like an accumulate. Uh, obviously all the hard work for the fight, but also the fight outside of the cage being sanctioned to medicate with cannabis and what that means for other athletes moving forward and, uh, Colorado.
So, no, it was just good kind of being around like, um, the place. I was in green, Greeley, Colorado, it’s kind of a dry town or whatever like that. So everything kind of closes a little earlier, especially with COVID yada yada, yada. So I had this big Airbnb that I, um, I rented while I was there and I just, uh, you know, enjoyed it with friends and family and, uh, a lot of weeds from beginning to middle and end.
Um, basically, um, It was kind of, uh, you know, that’s what I kind of like love about, uh, the fight, obviously there’s this whole buildup to, but, um, I’m lucky enough to have all these friends and families, uh, that, that come out to different fights. So it was good to have my parents there, my coaches, um, you know, some friends that came out and stuff like that.
And, you know, some friends that were out in the area to begin with and just kind of like a, you know, just marinated in the whole experience. And that’s what I was able to do. And I, I wouldn’t trade it for the world.
Troy: That’s great. It’s Colorado is a great place for that as well. I imagined the after party of the Airbnb had a volcano set up and had a mighty out, or do you get somebody Colorado concentrates where you’re readapting.
Elias: It was mostly flower some dope Kush that, that we ended up, uh, smell going all the way through.
Jerry: Nice. So yeah, man fight was cool, man. Dude, I thought you had that guy put down in the first he was, he was almost out, man. I was bummed that he stayed awake.
Elias: Yeah. Well, it’s a learning lesson in regards to the way I jumped on him, I should have just put knee on belly. Like I jumped on him right away, um, in the first, uh, for those that didn’t, uh, didn’t see it. I dropped him, uh, pretty early in the. And I swarmed on them, but the way I swarmed on them, it didn’t allow me to extend it. Just kind of put them out if you will. Um, so, uh, and, um, you know, it was obviously trying to, to not get put out, uh, and there was a couple moments too, where he kind of, uh, you know, the old saying goes, if you ain’t cheating, you, ain’t trying.
Um, actually, uh, he actually was grabbing my, uh, my glove. Um, so like he put [00:05:00] one hand on my, on my tricep, which is, uh, the right thing to do kind of a block. Um, the other part is with a glove is. He was reaching in and kind of grabbing there and like dictating where my hand was. And even a couple of times earlier or later on in the fight, uh, he, he was putting his toes in the, in the cage and trying to walk and across which you’re not supposed to do.
And he was warned a couple of times and even got a point taken away from him. So, um, you know, I, you know, oh, the power tool, uh, still was able to get the, the, the winning, uh, more than a dominated fashion. Um, you know, it was one of those things where it’s a learning lesson where, you know, nine times out of 10, I would have done the right thing, but I was trying to like swarm on them as quick as possible.
And, uh, and, uh, you know, he survived the to tell the tale.
Troy: Is that, is that like, like the ground and pound is at the same, same thing, like when you just,
Elias: yeah, that’s what I was doing. Okay. Yeah. So I dropped them. I basically did a, like, it was some time of a combination of like a hook opera cut while we were standing up in the clench and he went down. Uh, and then as soon as he went down, I dove into him, but the way I dove into them, I like I’m committed my hips almost to his core. Instead, I almost started putting my knee on his belly and kind of like, just like for lack of a better word, like neon I’m and just fucking, just go for it. Um, so giving them that opportunity to kind of get his, um, you know, the clear the cobwebs, he was able to survive the.
Jerry: Now, I mean, I saw him with the, with the feet in the cage kind of thing. And you know, I’ll notice when reps point out stuff, don’t do this. I’ve never heard of the glove thing before. How often does shit go on? Like that that’s illegal that nobody knows about is that every fight it’s always going on?
Elias: Yeah. Sometimes it’s like, it’s a weird battle to try to get in the attention of the ref. Right. Because that’s the person that needs to see it. Like, it’s one thing. Have I noticed it and it’s, it’s hindering me, but I got to like almost verbalize it and let them know. Um, I did, um, here and there cause uh, he was, uh, he was kind of crying, uh, When, um, for instance, there was a certain part of the fight where it was almost like a cat and mouse game because of the way he had his head in the second round, trying to take me down. I was elbowing him. And the funny little caveat is the only thing that hurt from me was me elbow and I’m in the head.
So that’s how bad that must have hurt him. So. Um, what’s it called the way he had his head in, he was playing a cat and mouse. He was turning his head away from me. So like in reality, um, it’s kind of like a gray zone in the capacity of if you’re turning it away, then you’re kind of putting yourself in harm’s way.
But just because he’s like, it’s, especially with punches, like. For instance, if we’re fighting and I turn around and while you punch and you punch me in the back of the head, even though technically it’s basically like a strip from your spine down, uh, from like the top of your head and down that you’re not supposed to touch, uh, just cause like nerve endings.
And again, it’s just like that area. You’re not supposed to hit like behind the ears, right? Like you’re not supposed to hit and stuff like that. But if you turn, if someone throws a punch in you turn and run over. And it hits you. It’s not like it’s the guy to throw the punch. It’s the guy that’s running away.
So I’m in the fight. I’m hitting him and he’s not moving. Cause he’s holding this, uh, this take down. That’s not going to get me down and he’s putting so much energy in it, but it just kind of tucked in his head away. And it’s like, well, again, I’m kind of, kind of hitting you on the side of it, but you’re literally running away.
Uh, but with me against the wall and I can’t know where to go. So it was like this weird cat. Well, I didn’t go. I’ll just lay it on them when I could have ’em again, probably put them out again in that position as well.
Jerry: Interesting, man. There’s so much to that, that, you know, if somebody doesn’t fight, I don’t, I mean, There’s so much discipline knowledge, chess match, you know, steps ahead that you guys do that, you know, from a casual observer, it blows my mind when I actually get to talk to somebody and you’re talking about that kind of switch. I would never thought that.
Elias: Yes.. Now there’s definitely a, again, like you said, there’s a whole process to it and, um, it’s, uh, you know, it was a wild ride and especially obviously, um, what it means more broadly speaking, uh, for the sport and for cannabis and sports. And then now. The organization, Colorado Combat Club have another event.
Um, Friday, March 25th, then I’m going to, I’m going to be a part of, I’m not going to be fighting, but I’ll be helping, uh, other athletes, uh, with their own therapeutic use exemption, uh, to allow other athletes to be able to medicate with cannabis because it’s not just about me. And then my journey, it’s about creating this creating access.
And that’s what I kind of want to do. Uh, keep fighting for access, uh, [00:10:00] of cannabis, uh, in sports and in medicine. And just more broadly.
Jerry: We’re gonna get a little ring boy spot that maybe.
Elias: Yeah. Maybe some of the female fights,
Jerry: uh, for those of you don’t know Elias, uh, given how easy is on the eyes can be a ring boy sometimes as well.
Elias: So he’s not just fighting. You can get out there. And when the ladies fight, he can do the whole, the cards and run around and be the sexy man. So, ah, that’s dope, man. I love it. I’d love to see that again. That was pretty funny, man. You segwayed perfectly forest man. Cause I was gonna let you talk. What you did in Colorado as far as changing things to,
well, I’m, I’m really excited and kind of like the little kind of icing on the chair.
If I do do it, then this’ll probably be my sixth organization, uh, that I’ve, uh, been a ring boy for. Um, what’s prominent would be, um, Invicta and that’s kind of where I was, uh, applying for the job in the first place with that whole video. Um, it’s uh, I guess like the largest female MMA organization. Uh, during the, you know, conversations, the cancel rate, uh, ring girls, uh, and that whole topic, I said that in the true pursuit of equality, the, the, the it’s not to subtract someone’s job.
It’s just the it like, uh, and, you know, uh, it’s, it’s a fun, it’s a fun obviously role, but it kind of just talks to the greater part of, uh, not trying to cancel something. Um, uh, that’s kind of been a part of. Uh, for a reason, like there’s a lot of ring girls, uh, that have, uh, created, you know, uh, whole professions, uh, leveraging off of it, uh, and, uh, doing it obviously for like the UFC and belts or, uh, and again, I understand where the concept is coming from, but, um, I think, uh, the whole concept of a ring, a ring girl, uh, this here to stay.
Troy: Well, I like that. I like the whole equality. Isn’t about subtraction. It’s about addiction.
Elias: Yeah, that’s a great approach. Well, then they did the same thing in regards to, again, with mixed martial arts, the UFC was a little later, um, to adding females, but I think that part of that was, uh, just the worry, it, it kind of like sat as a.
At the time I think they were, you know, it wasn’t really, um, legitimized or accepted as a mainstream sport until like, you know, um, the last 10 years. And they didn’t want to add that. Didn’t want to have a potential of some type of controversy with a fighter. Uh, on a female side, uh, and then obviously all that changed with someone like Rhonda Rousey that made it economically, uh, you know, worth the risk.
And, um, and from there, uh, from there again, the UFC is one of the more progressive sports where they have men and women, uh, headlining events, um, all the way on the card, all the way through. From the prelims, the, the, the main card all the way to the main events. So, um, in a mixed martial arts, and in many ways, it’s kind of been on the forefront.
You know, it’s a new sport altogether and you know, it may have taken longer than it should have. Um, but, uh, I think it’s on the right track right now.
Troy: I agree. And I think it’d be cool to see even a mixed-gender league when I took Brazilian jujitsu a number of years ago. About a third of the class were women and they were all bad asses who whooped my ass.
And, uh, I think people need to understand that women can really be badass.
Elias: Um, there’s some examples. Um, one of the champions, um, uh, , I’m forgetting her first name. She did a kickboxing fight and just knock the crap out of a dude the same way.
But, um, on another side you do too. It’s a little bit more ideal, a little more open to the whole concept of jujitsu, but again, at the same time, if it’s too willing, uh, to willing opponents, then, um, you know, it makes sense with jujitsu. It also makes sense, uh, as well, because especially with, uh, without the like removing even, uh, the whole concept of striking, uh, striking.
And stuff like that. Um, being able to, again, uh, grapple and the concept of, and the, um, components of just overall, um, technique, uh, can definitely prevail.
Jerry: Well, I’m all for it. I mean, hell, I’m still looking for that little kids league that I can finally whoop some ass.
Troy: Jerry’s no problem. No such thing as a fair fight.
Elias: No, no, not really.
Troy: I mean, ever everyone, there’s always going to be an advantage somewhere to people aren’t ever really equal.
I get that somebody always has more experience or more training or better eyesight or faster something, [00:15:00] you know, longer or longer.
Elias: I think it’s a fair fight in the capacity of, uh, equal, especially in, in regards to my sport, the whole concept of equal opportunity in regards to, uh, both have a set amount of training.
Uh, and obviously one will be definitely better, uh, in the end cause you know, uh, the better man wins a better woman wins. Um, but I think, uh, you know, uh, the ability to. I have a contract, which stipulates, uh, the same amount of opportunity. Um, it’s really, which, uh, you’re able to put together and sometimes the better man or better woman wins and sometimes they don’t.
So it really just, it also comes down to, who’s better at putting it all together on game day.
Troy: How much of it would you say is a mental game?
Elias: Quite a bit, quite a bit, especially in the like there’s, there’s people that are murderers in the gym and they just can’t put it to. Uh, come finite. So I I’ve seen that over the years.
Um, I’ve even seen it on, like for instance, like the reality show that I was a part of, um, the ultimate fighter, uh, basically, uh, Uh, I kind of was built as like the, um, you know, the destroyer, if you will. And the other one was kind of built as more or less like a punk kid. He was young, he was a, you know, a wild man, if you will, and you know, undefeated record.
Um, whereas the other one was like, uh, almost like the VanDamme like, uh, you know, looks like a fighter, like, uh, like a special. And everything he hits in the gym, his attitude has just like demeanor is just so much more tough and rugged. The other guys like playful, like I’m going to fight. And, um, it especially like the unit, uh, behind the scenes and then how it kind of like looks on.
The whole concept of a reality show, a reality show. Um, I kind of have it all played together. It’s very interesting. The aspect of, uh, you know, when it all comes together, nine out of 10 times, uh, you know, the one guy should have maybe one, but, um, you know, building on this TV show, building in this, the, the surroundings that happened, um, when he hit him, everyone expected him just to like, Like get, I mean, like it just poof knockout and it didn’t happen and even took him by surprise.
So, uh, that narrative that he built into. That, that he almost believed it, if you will. Um, he may have well been the better fighter, um, but on that day because of what he expected and it didn’t transpire exactly like that. It, um, very much, uh, tilted it in a way that again, nine times out of 10, uh, the better person does win, but, uh, this one time, um, we didn’t.
Jerry: I thought you were going to talk about the amazing race when you mentioned the, uh, the show you’re on. I was like, he’s talking about someone that race, you went to the, the fighter one, which, uh, where those, I bet that race was totally different, man. Was that hard for you that they made them race?
Elias: Um, again, it was zoom is different.
Um, and there’s a whole big production in regards to cause like you’re, you’re traveling all over the place. So the whole component, even like before the cameras get there, it’s like almost like a program. If you will just kind of like understanding what’s going to go down and stuff, not in a sense of the, the, the script, if you will, because there is none more than the combat, and they’re not going to tell you what’s happening because the whole point is it’s a venture game, but just like, just understanding like that, like the camera people that are going to be running with you, this, that, and the other, that’s going to be a part of it or whatever like that.
Yada, yada, yada, it was just a wild experience. And then, um, you know, will was hard and something. Some capacity of, you know, there’s other people there and you don’t quite know whereabouts you are, uh, on the race at a, especially at the, I would have, uh, the go. So, uh, you know, it was just kind of like a mad dash is the best way to kind of explain it.
Like some of the things, uh, you could pick up on the fly and some of the things you might just have a little, um, confusion, just because of all that’s happened to you when you know, the answer might be right in front of your face.
Jerry: Is there any, like, did you, did you, did you see any. Production influence on the outcome?
Elias: No, they kind of, honestly, it’s kind, kinda like just like throw it all together and see what sticks. All right.
Jerry: Cause I, I watched survivor regularly and there’s times I go, I guarantee you that shot was done. Just so they’d have something to talk about. Cause everything’s flowing one way and then they, they produce a contract.
Elias: I can see Survivor because they asked you questions. I can see where any type of reality show, because again, producers are just, um, you know, another name for writers on those shows. So, um, I would imagine there are some reality shows. Uh, they were never like that with the ultimate fighter. They never actually, again, they ask you questions and, um, it kind of goes in that direction because that’s, what’s kind of. It’s great. It’s kind of like what came first? You know what I mean?
Jerry: That’s kind of cool that [00:20:00] you’ve seen the back end of them. I was always wondering about that shit. So
Elias: I’m sure there are some out there, but like, uh, in WAC I kind of saw it wasn’t necessarily, um, you know, kind of like writing what happened.
It was kind of like, well this happened and then each fighter, each contestant kind of took it in the. Uh, their opinion. And obviously I assume there are, there is some kind of capacity of editing, more broadly speaking, but, um, I don’t think there was more than the idea of pushing you one way. Cool.
Troy: On the topic of a scripted versus reality. TV and, uh, kind of pivoting back to the fighting thing. What do you think about like the WWF and like the TV wrestling type of content?
Elias: Well, I think the, the current is kind of like decent and there’s some really great guys and gals out there. Um, and then also even, uh, like, you know, when, like you see WV there’s a bunch of different other independent ones, uh, that are out there. Um, NXT as well of not like, you know, the main stage in regards to it like their storyline of what triple H has been able to kind of put together. Um, on that end, it has been pretty interesting fun, uh, but, um, attitude, era forever. If I ever we’re talking, we’re talking about pro wrestling attitude era forever.
Troy: These guys are like a blend of. Uh, athlete and actor, right? Like it’s a, I mean, these guys are taking semi real hits or at least
Elias: And just the, um, whether it’s the, uh, overall agility, athleticism, um, you know, acrobatics, uh, timing. And again, almost being like, almost like an artist with it. I’m happy to put on that show. Uh, you know, there are definitely professional performers.
Troy: Has anyone ever blended the line or crossed. It’s quite a musician to have gotten involved, but so like real real fighters have, have,
Elias: um, Rhonda Rousey. She, she left, uh, when she left the UFC, she went to WWE.
Um, there’s been, you know, Bobby Lashley there’s been no Brock Lesnar. Uh, that’s one of the biggest examples. Uh, of course, um, he was, uh, he. What’s the UFC champion and fought for essentially in the UFC championship a few times as well, kind of in between is a career run. And then, um, I know there’s a whole bunch of other ones, um, that have, uh, made the cross, uh, and mixed martial arts and, uh, WWE very much more and more specifically the UFC and WWE very much have a, um, you know, intertwined, uh, And history bring Shamrock.
There’s a whole bunch of guys that have gone to the end. And now obviously women with Ronda Rousey and there’s a few other ones, especially in the NEX um, Ronda Rousey’s like, uh, they call it like, it was a play on, um, Rick flair and, uh, and all of those guys, but all the, all the guys of the four horsemen and they had like a little spinoff of the four horsemen and it was Rhonda and her three.
Fighting or fighter partners like trading partners, uh, that made the cross as well with her. So Ronda Rousey, when she went, she brought three of her, uh, performer, uh, training partners in MMA, uh, over to, over to, uh, WWE, but more specifically I think a couple of them that shined on NXT
Troy: wow. I had no idea. I had no idea. There was such big overlap.
Jerry: I, uh, when, when my kid was younger, he was really into WWE and. He, um, I think he was 10 and he wanted to take his birthday money and do the pay-per-view event. And, you know, he did, he took all $60 of his birthday money and bought the pay-per-view prevent. Nobody was really interested in this, uh, other than him.
And I was like, damn, I’m going to watch this with him. And so I went down there and watched it and I wasn’t into wrestling. It hadn’t been a long time. I watched it and on the pay-per-view they fucking go an extra 30%, man. I mean, like everything’s higher, harder, faster, like they were not fucking around.
And then, uh, a few years later, Um, I took him to the only live event or the first live event that came here that I remember. So when, when, when, when they came live to our town, I took him to that and he was probably, I don’t know, it could have been 14, maybe younger than that. And, uh, I came away thoroughly impressed, man, like between, uh, when they break the commercial.
Those guys are out there entertaining and interacting with the crowds and getting them hyped. And it was just, it was different, man. I’m like, I’d watch it on [00:25:00] TV. But when I went live, I was like, this was a lot of fun. Like I’m not into it at all, but I would come back to that. It was a fucking fun
Elias: for sure. No, it’s a wild ride. And it’s crazy that, that they do it like. Almost more than once a week, every week. I like the push. What they, the different shows and stuff like that. It’s basically like two, they might be like two to three shows a nationwide every single week.
Jerry: That’s that’s a lot for that kind of activity, man. I mean, I know it’s not fighting, but they’re getting hit, man, so, oh yeah, it hits.
Troy: And Elias moniker like, uh, Elias in the wrestling Federation with like a cannabis persona where he’s like the,
Jerry: oh, this is it. We got you. This is your next. I was going to ask you what next choices did it, man,
Troy: 10 years down the road.
Elias: Dope boy.
Dope, man. Um, what was going to say dope man?
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Elias: I’m going along the lines of, um, uh, the mighty you bounce it off the righty. Yeah. Well, I have made my pro debut, uh, before, so I, I went as Greece Lightning but spelled like, like, almost like the whole concept of, um, like Greek. So it was like G R E E C E.
And then I was in all white spandex, like, uh, like the shirts, rippling sleeves, uh, torn off. So it was like a spandex thing, like a one, one Z suit. Now, once you see it as normal, like. And I just ripped the arms out and I got a Greek little flag and I put it as my Cape. Uh, my finishing move was the, um, it was the, uh, what do you call it?
The Superman combo knock out off the top ropes.
Jerry: How long ago was this?
Elias: Um, probably about six years ago was the last time I, uh, maybe five years ago was the last time I did. I did twice.
Jerry: Nice man. They kick you out cause he kept really hitting people
Elias: uh, what was going to say? Uh, there, they were awesome. Um, it’s a super fixed, it’s a Toronto based, um, Toronto based, uh, independent wrestling, uh, organization. And they’re, they’re awesome. Like the same kind of concept they have, like a, almost like, what is it? It’s some kind of. Theater of sorts that they’re there.
They’re always there. Um, even now they’re still doing it. They have like their own studio. And even through COVID, they’re putting in their own shows together and stuff like that.
Jerry: Crushing it, man. That’s how you do it.
Troy: So when’s your next, your next, uh,
Elias: The next fight is going to be a likely in, uh, March, April.
That’s kind of the game plan. Just figuring out what a, which organization and which direction I want to go. Um, obviously I’ve been fighting a good fight, uh, kind of like, uh, on my own direction. Um, but now that I have done Canada and the U S I might be able to be in a role where I help others do it. And it’s kind of like, uh, especially when regards to what I wanted to accomplish was getting both candidates.
And now I can go to some of the larger organizations again and, um, you know, really make a run, uh, really make a focus, uh, being improving. I’m one of the best in the world. So that’s kinda the game plan on that aspect. Um, there’s different conversations that we’re kind of having. Um, but for me specifically, it’s just.
Yeah, I want to, uh, I didn’t have any injuries and I want to keep it that way. So I’m kind of going slowly back into getting my fitness back into it, uh, working on my mobility, working on my flexibility, um, kind of, uh, trying to progress as an athlete, more broadly speaking, uh, altogether. So that’s what I’m kind of focusing on, uh, for the next little bit.
And then now looking, like I said, uh, sometime in the spring, uh, you know, possibly as close to four 20 as possible, um,
Troy: Nice that that’d be a great a four 20 event and you have been out there fighting the good fight. You made a big difference. You’ve made, made an impact on, on the, on the sports world and on the cannabis world.
And it’s been amazing. Uh, how about doing a cannabis? Like event the event, like a fight where people can consume in the audience, like a sanctioned public. That’s an assumption
Elias: That’s what we’re trying to do in BC, uh, for the one in Canada, but just with COVID and like, uh, the timing of the delays we were originally supposed to do that, um, outside of the.
And they got to kind of pushed all the way or summer slash early, uh, or the lead up to, um, fall. Um, basically because, uh, the whole kind of concept was at one point to have it tied with the legalization of anniversary of Canada, um, which is October 17. And that was when originally the game plan was going to happen.
But because of COVID, obviously everything got kind of delayed [00:30:00] and then, uh, Uh, from there, I was able to do it in March. So around that time, it was a little too cold. Um, a little too, again, there was, you know, yo-yos in regards to just the restrictions and what a jurisdiction was doing. And, uh, it just kind of made sense, uh, to do it the way we did, but that was something definitely we were trying to do.
I think moving forward, this is an opportunity, again, not necessarily on the property, um, but there’s different avenues that I still have plans moving forward. That go kind of beyond even MMA, uh, in regards to, uh, you know, creating and knocking down barriers and, uh, creating opportunity for other athletes to apply for their own therapeutic exemption by becoming precedent.
And then, uh, again, opening that door for others. So that’s, uh, I just look at one more, uh, you know, ACE up my sleeve. Um, and in that capacity, but, uh, there’s also, um, you know, the focus right now of, uh, proving again to the worlds that I’m one of the best in the world. So I’m just kind of getting back to the, you know, the grind, um, and jumping back into it and looking to get back in there and about that spring.
Jerry: Has your cannabis routine changed or augmented any, since we last talk, not
Elias: too much, again, it’s like, it’s in many ways. It’s like, uh, you know, a part of my day, um, through and through, um, when I’m putting on topicals, depending on what hurts and aches in the morning, uh, I’m stretching them, you know, being in tune with my body, um, at that point, um, You know, I’ll, uh, vaporize the stors in some capacity.
They’re walking around the house with, um, the mighty or, um, kind of stationary, um, where the volcano usually is. Um, so kind of like playing around with that, go and train, uh, do the whole punchy kicky thing. And then, uh, you know, I’ll vaporize after. Uh, with the mighty I’ll usually, uh, usually bring with me to training for after, and I’m stretching them again in tune with my body, understanding what I’m doing and, um, kind of, uh, using in that capacity.
And then in the evening I switched more to a CBD dominant, um, towards the end. And that helps, uh, especially for my nighttime. Um, I’m a big believer in at least my dreaming. Uh, I drink quite a bit at night and I’m a very vivid dream. And cannabis doesn’t make him not THC. More specifically. Doesn’t make him not dream.
It just doesn’t allow you to remember your dreams. So kind of switching more to the CBD towards the end. Um, and again, there’s, there’s different types of, uh, times where, um, especially when I’m focusing on a lot of smoothies and I had to get access to it, uh, you know, I’m, I’m putting rock cannabis with THCA, uh, in my, my smoothie, um, you know, a part of my day and kind of having in that capacity. When I’m able to get it, some of it around
Jerry: Right on. So you’re dreaming plenty. You, you getting lucid?
Elias: Yeah, yeah, yeah. With all that being able to get, uh, for, for, um, again, uh, just being able to time it, uh, in some capacity, um, throughout the day, towards the end of the evening, uh, to kind of switch to more CBD, definitely helps getting out.
Troy: I’ll have to try that. I’ll have to give that a try. I can imagine you, uh, in, in, uh, like an ice bath vaping, a mighty bull after, after training, Do you do those ice bath?
Elias: Yeah. Well, there’s a, there’s a lake just out here that, um, uh, I’m going to jump. So I’m just, I’m going to start doing it again. Um, one of my friends always called, um, it was like, again, it’s, it’s, it’s so ridiculous.
Uh, I could translate it in Fahrenheit, but there’s been a couple of times where with the windshield, it basically meets it in minus 30. What.
Jerry: No. What planet are you training on bro? Like, I don’t get that at all. I’ll come to the water then. Man, the water
Elias: day, I think it would be a little bit warmer. Um, just because of, uh, you know, kind of what it takes in, uh, in regards to the sun.
But it’s still, that’d be under water with a straw. It’s not like that every day. Like there’s a once or once or twice, but there’s once or twice. Like it’s not always like that, but if it gets hit that cold, so I’m kind of timing it right now. Like, um, I don’t think it’s that cold right now. I think it’s more of like minus a minus two, minus three, uh, Canadian or Canadian, um, uh, Celsius.
Jerry: You’re fucking Canadians. I love it. Everything’s Canadian. That’s great.
Elias: No, but I meant in the size of the whole world, like I was going to say, uh, the Canadian, the way that we do it. Um, but again, it’s the rest of the world, uh, uses, uh, uses, uh, Celsius. [00:35:00]
Jerry: We’re the weirdos down here, man. Do you ever give her use the, uh, the whip free of volcano?
Elias: Uh, yeah. All the time. Yeah. If it’s just over there.
Jerry: Yeah. What do you do? You do mix it up or you probably just use the whip unless you’re gonna run around and then you bag it up or do you care?
Elias: Yeah, well again if I’m having bad, like two different parts. Um, so then I like a extra, because I got like two floors, so I’ll just throw it sometimes and let it like land on my couch.
It’s like a little parachute. I meet myself down there. But, um, I usually walk around with the, uh, the mighty, um, and then we’re obviously that I go with it. I’ll take the mighty with me. And then, uh, also the crafty plus I got that too. Um, I really like it. I got the, uh, the new Onyx that they sent me. Uh, it’s dope as hell
Jerry: dude, the Onyx hybrid or. Okay. Nice. So you’ve got, okay, so you have two then, cause that was the silver one you showed. Yeah. So you could do one up and down. Perfect. Oh, that’s dope. Yeah. The Onyx is beautiful, man. This is what, this is what I need right here. Troy’s got my favorite. I don’t have a toy.
Troy: The volcano gas mask, you hook up both of the hybrids with the whips, put the gas mask on.
I did it in a video and it’s like, it’s like vapor waterboarding
Elias: yeah. Yeah.
Troy: Yeah, it’s a wild experience.
Jerry: I want to do it. Thanks for taking the time. He got me to do us a favor and, um, tell everybody where they can find you online.
Elias: Yeah, @eliastheodorou on Instagram and Twitter. Um, obviously, uh, you know, I’ll be having some more, uh, you know, updates in regards to my fights, uh, you know, in the cage and out, and, uh, what I’m doing to, again, knock out, uh, the prohibition of cannabis in athletics.
And I recently obviously got to winning the gage, but as well on top of that, to me, even. Was the ability to get cannabis sanctioned as a medicine in my competition and what it means to set precedent for other athletes moving forward. And that’s what I plan on helping do a March 25th for Colorado Combat Club, uh, which, uh, again, even though I’m not fighting on it, I’ll be, uh, helping spread the word of, uh, plant medicine.
Troy: Wonderful. Keep serving those, those W’s keep fighting the good. See you March 25th,
Jerry: yeah, man. Don’t forget to claim that ring boy to man that’s yours.
Elias: J when you’re right. You’re right. And a great idea. I’m going to actually, that’s one of the things you said. I have a lot of things I have more things to do because that’s not something I have to see if we can work out.
So I’m pretty pumped about it. Um, and again, as always, uh, whether I’m, you know, running errands or. Planning all those plans together and obviously in the gym and out, um, throughout my day as an athlete and a professional, I, um, bake like a professional with all stors and bickel brands. Um, you know, we touched on the volcano, we touched on the onyx um, you know, I’m about to charge my. Mighty plus, uh, right now, uh, and, uh, get my day going. Cause I got the gym to eventually go to the second time. Boom,
Troy: Still my right hand vape.
Elias: Thank you guys. Um, and, uh, look forward to catch up when I have some more news in regards to the fight and, uh, you know, my next fight in the cage and then obviously the, the next cannabis, uh, fight that I have a planned for later this year.
Jerry: Thanks brother. Peace
Troy: Looking forward to it, man. Thanks for seshin.
Watch our first interview with Elias here.